Hobie 14 mast rake With the shroud lines set in the bottom holes of the chain plate, I had acceptable rig My approach is to take a Hobie and start out with the mast vertical. Site Rank - Captain: Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:09 pm Posts: 91 Location: UK How is mast rake measured on a H14 Turbo. Louis, MO Check out the Hobie FAQ's concerning mast rake and Trimaran Fore/aft mast rake is adjusted so that the sailplan will gently round the boat into the wind with the tiller neutral when beating to weather. If you would Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo All times are UTC [ DST] turbo mast rake adjustment Page 1 of 1 [ 3 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic Author Message mikeb Post subject: turbo mast rake Posted: Post subject: How to I rig a Hobie 14 Turbo Jib System Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:49 pm Site Rank - Deck Hand Joined: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:24 am Posts: 8 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada I just bought a H14T and can't figure out Post subject: Increasing mast rake on '80 Hobie 16 Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:08 pm Site Rank - Deck Hand Joined: Mon May 07, 2012 8:57 pm Posts: 2 Location: Deerfield, MA I'm new to sailing after rescuing a '80 Hobie 16 Al  · I understand that mast rake has perhaps the greatest effect on pointing ability, I am currently using the top hole in the forestay, 4th hole from the top of the shroud adjuster (this gives the amount of rake ~ 58in and degrees of twist ~120 in the side shrouds recommended in Bob's guide). Be first in line to hear about Raking the Mast on a Hobie 16 Increasing Upwind Performance By Bill Mattson So you want to race that older model Hobie 16? One of the first tuning options you need to consider is mast rake, or tilting your mast towards the rear of the boat. Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:28 pm . Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:42 pm Posts: 274 Location: Sarasota Sailing Squadron I have a Hobie 14 and sail it with my wife. It will also allow you to use more recent shrouds and sails intended for a much more aggressive rake angle than the older boats had. Louis, MO Check out the Hobie FAQ's concerning mast rake and  · Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:40 am Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:40 am: It is currently Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:40 am: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Mast Rake We now have a good understanding on what prerequisites are needed to get the boat on her feet and tracking in the water. Page 1 of 1 [ 6 posts ] Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:36 pm Posts: 59 Matt/others I set my boat up with 16 inches of rake as the measured difference from the the bridle screw to the lower corner (just below the drain plug) of the transom. JaimeZX Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:52 pm . Page 1 of 1 [ 13 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic : Author Message; Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:14 pm . Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:18 am . . Mast Rake is the largest performance enhancement on the Wave. Mast rake on a 14 is a good thing. christospanag Post subject: Re: Tiger Mast Rake. Page 1 of 1 [ 1 post Message; Williowsjim Post subject: H 14 - Mast Rake and other tunning tips. With the change The mast rake was so severe the boom was way too low and the stops on the mast rotation were missing their mark. 5" and have the same mast rake???? I'd like to adjust my mast rake so that the center-of-effort is slightly behind the center-of-lateral-resistance (off the water/on trailer). I think the dimension of the old tang with shackle is quite similar to the newer tang You gotta talk to MR. The Getaway has no boards, just skegs on the aft end of the floats that do not extend below the floats. Im no interested in racing only have fun without spending lot of $$ in a new hobie 16 rigging. Page 1 of 1 [ 8 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic : Author Message; Gahamby Post subject: Mast Rake. Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:17 pm '02 Hobie Tiger USA 1152. Hobie Wave 2003, original rudders, sail is crisp. I can give you my 2 cents on Hobie 18s regarding pitchpoling. HOBIE 14 1984 World Champion 1980, 1985, 1986, 1987 US National Champion 1983, 1987 US TURBO National champion « Ver todos os posts. Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:53 pm . Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:41 H-16 Mast Rake Questions. The 16 turns like the 14 "like crap" compared to a dagger board cats. Fuller wings get great lift and can handle more weight, but they get pushed around more in higher air speeds. I don't remember the specifics because I wasn't interested in 14's at the time, but now I would like one of those Last visit was: Sat May 27, 2023 10:24 pm: It is currently Sat May 27, 2023 10:24 pm Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:15 pm: It is currently Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:15 pm: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. *all boats are different, but these ballpark settings Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:29 pm: It is currently Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:29 pm: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 16. Anything else i might need to have done. I still have a number of Hobie friends from that area. You want the rig raked so far back that the blocks will be block-to-block. The 2009 model year marks the first significant Brad, Reread my post. All times are UTC [ DST] Mast rake, has the mast step & base changed over the years? Page 1 of 1 I'm still messing around with the mast rake. Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:51 pm . This great beachcat is still actively raced today and many new sailors get their first taste of catamaran sailing aboard the Hobie 14 catamaran. Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:13 pm . The 2009 model year marks the first significant change since 1995. Site Rank - Old Salt: Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:45 am Posts: 648 Location: Saskatoon, Sk. You cannot post new topics in this Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:40 am Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:40 am: It is currently Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:40 am: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Matt Miller, What is the popular belief regarding mast rake on my 1986 h18 . All times are UTC [ DST] Mast rake. MAST RAKE The first thing Hobie 14, Mast Rake. 2) You really shouldn't need a Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Thanks in advance! 2013 Hobie 16 1988 Hobie 17 1985 Hobie 14 Previous 16's owned 1981, 1986, 1993, 1995, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2010 Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie Wave. Undo After much searching on the Internet, I found a mast step kit which is probably what I should have used. All times are UTC [ DST] Who is online: Mast Rake. Manuals / Parts Guides Hobie 14 Assembly Manual (English) Hobie 14 Manual - Original Getting Started Hobie 14 Turbo Jib Manual Mast Float (Baby Bob - 30116) H14/16 Installation Mast Float (Bob - 30113) Installation Mast Float (Mama Bob - 30112) Installation Sail Trim Using Telltales Sailing, Tuning, and Trailering Guide Hobie 14, Mast Rake. Page 1 of 1 [ 1 post ] Board index » Hobie Catamaran Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:32 pm: It is currently Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:32 pm: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 16. Also, looking for a Hobie 16 The 14 and 16 both carry allot of mast rake. You can't point as high, and the sail is de-powered. Did you run a jib with your 14? Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. There has been a lot said about how much mast rake a Hobie 14 should have; I know of no setting that Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:18 am After reading several posts about raking the mast as far back as possible to help the 16 point better I decided I would but the side stays in the bottom hole Even there I can not the main sheet blocks any closer than about 7 or 8” apart. Page 1 of 1 [ 4 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic : Author Message; Williowsjim Post subject: Hobie 14, Mast Rake. This, like rig tension, will Hola I am looking for a later model year Hobie 16 Mast, the one for my '09 boat is not what I want. eg Hobie 16s, Getaways, Dart 18s, all of which I've had experience racing. Louis, MO Check out the Hobie FAQ's concerning mast rake and Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. and which hole Hobie 14, Mast Rake. All times are UTC [ DST] Mast rake + new shrouds. 1976 Pg 10 Mast Rake-How & Why's Hobie Hotline - January/February, 1977 Pg 28 Does your Cat sail like a Dog? Hobie Hotline - March/April, Is the rudder rake adjustable on the getaway, took the new 2021 getaway out for its maiden sail last weekend, and in strong winds (10-15mph) it really wants to head up, needs a constant pull on the tiller to stay straight. Page 1 of 1 [ 5 posts ] Michigan Was over on the Cat Sailor forum. Site Rank - Old Salt: Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:43 pm Posts: 779 Location: St.  · I'd like to adjust my mast rake so that the center-of-effort is slightly behind the center-of-lateral-resistance (off the water/on trailer). and which hole do you put the sidestays and foresay into on the mast tang (currently in the lower)  · Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:16 pm Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:16 pm: It is currently Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:16 pm: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Find go fast upgrades for racers or durable parts for recreational and club sailors. The 16 is an easy boat to get into "irons" when Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:53 pm: It is currently Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:53 pm: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie Getaway. Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:14 pm . All times are UTC [ DST] Shroud Length. It was taken the first day of the 2006 Hobie 16 North Americans in the Atlantic Ocean near Naragansett, RI Hobie 14, Mast Rake. Rake is set by pinning higher (forward rake) or lower (aft rake) on the shrouds. If you need same length as 85 stock Here's what I have, I came across an old (70's I'm guessing) Hobie 14 at an auction over the winter and brought it home! Hulls seem to be in good shape, crossbars and tramp good, mast and standing rigging look good too, but Hobie 14 "Sea & Ski" Top GD_NC Post subject: Re: Replace mast base vs reinforcing mast Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:02 pm Site Rank - Old Salt Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:28 am Posts: 323 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina The advantage to putting the step in the "new" location is that you'll be able to rake the mast back further, which will give you better upwind performance and controllability. Louis, MO Check out the Hobie FAQ's concerning mast rake and Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Fri May 31, 2024 12:01 am: It is currently Fri May 31, 2024 12:01 am: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 16. 2) You really shouldn't need a Posts: 14 As a new owner of Hobie Getaway (and loving it), I just have a couple of questions: Unless you want to make adjustments to the mast rake angle. Theroretically, I should be able to just move them up 1. The amount of rake being run seems to increase over the years, and by the two posts below it was 10-16 and then 16 and above, and now. Site Rank - Admiral: Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:13 am Posts: 188 Location: Charleston, SC The Hobie 14 catamaran sailboat launched the "Hobie Way of Life" when it leaped onto the world stage with the now famous 1968 Life Magazine "The Cat that Flies" article. If you can ' Hey everyone, Now that classes are out here at UF, I finally have some time to check out the boats at our lake. First, the Hobie 18 is the least likely catamaran out there to pitchpole. Here is the stock Turbo Bridle length to compare (3' 10" pin to pin). I was attempting to set my mast rake according to Bob Curry's Hobie 14 tuning guide. Posts: 14 Location: Daytona Beach, FL So because of how parts are stocked at Hobie and probably by most dealers, you could end up with two different lengths when you buy shrouds, bridles or trap wires. For one, in racing, it moves the center of effort aft, and because the boat has no daggerboards, it puts it over the rudders more, MAST RAKE. Page 1 of 1 [ 1 post ] Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:27 pm . A bit As a new owner of Hobie Getaway (and loving it), I just have a couple of questions: - With the Comptip mast, is it possible to over-tighten the shrouds? On windy days, if I would want to rake the mast aft, I'm concerned about going Now if the topic was spreader rake, I'd agree with you - useless adjustment! The way you measure the tension is like wscotterwin said - try pressing the diamond wires to the side of the mast, both at the same time. " Does this mean you can raise and lower the mast without having to loosen the port and starboard wires each time you sail (understanding the forestay has to be unhooked to raise and lower Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Remember, mast rake The first thing you want to do is step the mast on the trailer. *all boats are different, but these ballpark settings  · Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. From the reading I've done on the forum, the greater the mast rake the better the cat will perform and also make it less prone to pitchpoling. Site Rank - Old Salt: A new step/base will allow you to carry much more mast rake. Would it be possible to get step-by-step instructions on This came from other forum about the weight of the FX mast: Quote: One of the FX One owners at Datchet has tried a Stealth carbon mast on his boat with great success, seems to counter a lot of the problems such as single handers not being able to right the boat and in his opinion seems that it also makes the boat easier to sail. I am running 18-22 on my mast rake in order to get two blocked. And the foot or so less in the bow will change the jib angle Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. One more question associated with this please: is there any danger of damage to the mast or problem in using the 14 hole Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Sat Sep 14, 2024 2:56 pm: It is currently Sat Sep 14, 2024 2:56 pm: Can anyone give me input on mast rake for the 18. In moderate air keep the main powered up with more sheet tension. Their web page is here. It has two hooks that close on each other and then a boot slides down to keep the hooks closed. I am having issues with the mast rake. I've been out with it half a dozen times over the past few weeks and am trying to fine tune the rigging. One more question associated with this please: is there any danger of damage to the mast or problem in using the 14 hole in the kit when lowering the Hobie Tiger Tuning Guide - 2006 Edition - Mitch Booth 15/03/2006 vertical. Is there a kit available for I'm new to sailing after rescuing a '80 Hobie 16 from a backyard in Vermont about 2 months ago. F14 Dan Berger about that. You should hook up with Hobie Fleet 191 in Greesnboro. On a Hobie Cat(16), the mast is very adjustable, and is typically raked back, rather extremely. Hi there Can anyone help me to understand if you are supposed to also use the Mast Step Link Kit to help you lower a Hobie 16 Mast? We used it this weekend to raise the mast successfully, but then once raised, we removed the kit. As a result I need to shorten the shrouds more Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Sailinagin Post subject: Re: Mast Rake question. Much to my surprise, we have an old Hobie 14 Turbo rotting at the lake shore. I don't remember the specifics because I wasn't interested in 14's at the time, but now I would like one of those Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:21 am: It is currently Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:21 am: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Yes you can adjust rudder rake to make steering easier, Vang not used on cats with traveller, Mast raising easy on all 14s, without need for fittings and pins ( unless you are female 65kg or less) Strop/swivell required at top of jib, length determined by mast rake, H 14 requires a fair bit of rake We were able to use the kit to lower the mast this time around by inserting a philips screwdriver in to the 14 hole (still could not get it into the 16 hole despite adjusting the mast rake)so we are slowly getting there. This limits how far forward the mast can go when the jib halyard (whole rig actually) is tightened (and the forestay goes slack). Hobie 20! G-Cat5. Mast rake will move the center of effort aft towards the rudders, and help your Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:30 am: It is currently Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:30 am: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 16. I think the dimension of the old tang with shackle is quite similar to the newer tang Last visit was: Sat Sep 14, 2024 2:56 pm It is currently Sat Sep 14, 2024 2:56 pm Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 18 / 18SX All times are UTC [ DST] Mast rake for optimal performance Page 1 of 1 [ 6 posts ] Hobie Tiger Tuning Guide - 2006 Edition - Mitch Booth 15/03/2006 help. I DID NOT say they were changing the Hobie 16 mast base. Page 1 of 1 [ 3 posts ] how do you adjust the mast rake in turbo mode? Or are you supposed to? My experience with H18, H16, and non-turbo H14 boats tells me there is typically a multi hole adjuster at the bottom of the forestay Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Page 1 of 1 [ 3 posts ] Post subject: Re: Mast Rake Hobie Wave. Page 1 of 1 [ 3 posts ] how do you adjust the mast rake in turbo mode? Or are you supposed to? My experience with H18, H16, and non-turbo H14 boats tells me there is typically a multi hole adjuster at the bottom of the forestay Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie Wave. this is a new term for me. All times are UTC [ DST] Mast rake problem. Hobie Approved Guru: Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:11 am Posts: 5197 Location: Detroit, MI heelcat wrote: - you can't possibly match the mast rake without spending thousands (new jib / jib sheet system, upgraded What's the word on mast rake on a Hobie 18. Mast Rake Maximum rake, but keep enough leach tension on the mail sail: in light & heavy air keep a loose leach. Thanks for the compliment. Canada So how much does mast rake affect the cats ability to go upwind? If I rake the mast on my getaway as far back as I can I Post subject: Hobie 16 mast rake. Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 8:17 pm Posts: 4 Location: Seattle It's a trait followed by racers of catamarans with no dagger boards. All times are UTC [ DST] Mast stepping. I don't remember the specifics because I wasn't interested in 14's at the time, but now I would like one of those Hobie 20 style tiller connec-tors, stainless steel rudder pins, pin bushings and blade bushings are all part of the arsenal to keep the rudders slop-free and in tune. Then adjust the shrouds for more rake. Use marine grease, if possible, between the cam and plunger. Do I need to take the side stays off and We were able to use the kit to lower the mast this time around by inserting a philips screwdriver in to the 14 hole (still could not get it into the 16 hole despite adjusting the mast rake)so we are slowly getting there. Hobie Nick Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:08 pm . The guy gave me new shrouds to replace one he dragged on the ground while trailering. There has been a lot said about how much mast rake a Hobie 14 should have; I know of no setting that  · Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:29 pm: I set my boat up with 16 inches of rake as the measured difference from the the bridle screw to the lower corner (just below the drain plug) of the transom. Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 8:28 pm . I have the kit, which consists of two compression plates, a compression sleeve, a bolt, a nut, and the arm. I sail the boat to determine the balance, then rake the mast bit by bit until the boat feels right sailing to windward. I just run my 14 about as old school as you can get it: Slow. Fast, free shipping on orders over $49. I heard the jib might need to be recut to compensate. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 5:47 am . The 16 is an easy boat to get into "irons" when tacking and requires some practice to prevent. The fix is to replace the mast step with a new one. Page 1 of 1 [ 3 posts ] how do you adjust the mast rake in turbo mode? Or are you supposed to? My experience with H18, H16, and non-turbo H14 boats tells me there is typically a multi hole adjuster at the bottom of the forestay The advantage to putting the step in the "new" location is that you'll be able to rake the mast back further, which will give you better upwind performance and controllability. When I  · Last visit was: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:40 pm: It is currently Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:40 pm  · I'd like to adjust my mast rake so that the center-of-effort is slightly behind the center-of-lateral-resistance (off the water/on trailer). What hole you're in on the shroud chainplates has little to do with your mast rake while sailing. Mast Rake SCHAFER: The next area I am fussy about is mast rake. I also find that I need to use bungy cord Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:14 pm I understand that mast rake has perhaps the greatest effect on pointing ability, I am currently using the top hole in the forestay, 4th hole from the top of the shroud adjuster (this gives the amount of rake ~ 58in and degrees of twist ~120 in the side shrouds recommended in Bob's guide). I said they were changing the Hobie Dragoon mast base from the crappy 14/16 type to the modern 17/20/FX-1/Tiger type. Hobie 14. Is this something that needs to be The 14 and 16 both carry allot of mast rake. Mast rake will move the center of effort aft towards the rudders, and help your boat point better. I am 14 and my dad bought me a hobie 14. '86 Hobie 18, '93 Hobie 14, '80 Hobie 14(restso in progress) Wind in your sails, water in your shoes, great day! to see if there is an option to choose from other than just replacing the mast step with one that supports more rake. *all boats are different, but these ballpark settings Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:00 am Roy Post subject: Mast Rake. Notice the mast, mast rake and mast base. Anything will do as a temp lubrication: Suntan lotion, WD-40 or Chap Stick etc. All times are UTC [ DST] Hobie 14 Forestay length prob. Previously ran at the fourth hole up and forestay just out the I'd like to adjust my mast rake so that the center-of-effort is slightly behind the center-of-lateral-resistance (off the water/on trailer). It's a great boat but is a bit of a handful when starting to fly a hull, as the leeward hull starts to dive. If you got one or know where I can get one, I have cash or tons and tons of stuff to trade. Page 1 of 1 [ 4 posts ] Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:32 pm Posts: 14 I've noticed a lot of Hobies with a raked mast. . We offer a full range of Optimist sailboat racing sails, spar sets, blades, tillers, covers, accessories, and more. Once mast rake is adjusted, then side shrouds are tightened as much as possible to make the boat as stiff as possible--even with a rotating mast. Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:16 pm . They talk about changing the front forestay adjuster to adjust rake "Standard with the Wave is the 7-hole forestay adjuster. Problem is, I'm not sure my forestay or shrouds are stock length: they don't seem to match the measurements I got from Hobie. All times are UTC [ DST] Help with Mast rake? line which allowed him to rake his mast within about 5 to 10 degrees, without undoing any shrouds or bridle wires. and which hole West Coast Sailing is your source for Opti parts. This will ASSEMBLY MANUAL: HOBIE CAT 14 Std & Race Stepping the mast ATTENTION ‐ DANGER ALUMINIUM MAST ‐ When stepping the mast or launching the boat watch for overhead electric wires. All times are UTC [ DST] Mast Rake Line - Clew Keeper - BoomVang - Pics Available. Rudder rake for a 16 should have the leading edge of the rudder 1 9/16" ahead of the plane where the gudgeons mount to. Page 1 of 1 [ 15 posts ] I have the mast stepper from hobie (not the one with the gin pole), but the mast keeps falling to one side when I raise and lower. All times are UTC [ DST] Mast Rake. Also mast rotation was stiff and binding. Shock or even death could CAMS - The Hobie rudder cam system is pretty easy to deal with if you keep it greased. Page 1 of 1 [ 5 posts ] Previous topic With the longer fore-stay theres a little more mast rake correct? But the stops on the bottom of the mast do not hit the stops on the cup for the mast on the front cross bar My original intent was to purchase the Hobie 14 Powerpack (2090) which includes the 6:1 downhaul, the 2:1 outhaul, and the mast rotation control kits. on the 14, we run the rigs so loose that you can grab one shroud with your hand, then turn it 90 degrees. I used to have a pair of gudgeons on the edge of a Hobie Approved Guru Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:11 am Posts: 5197 Location: Detroit, MI The mast certainly isn't rotating enough to port - and you're seeing that in the reduced power on that tack (starboard tack - wind coming over I would like to install a mast rotation arm in my Hobie 16. When I Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:11 am: Sails that have less mast rake, less downhaul, less outhaul and more batten tension are more like the wings of a cargo plane or pelican. I've searched all the past posts and have found good general info regarding the forestay/shrouds and holes/adjusters. Hobie has a wire guide that will define the diameter, type of cable, and length (FYI, the current one (about MY2004 to present) is MUCH longer than the 85 stock because of mast rake change). I don't remember the specifics because I wasn't interested in 14's at the time, but now I would like one of those Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Fri Nov 29, 2024 12:29 am: It is currently Fri Nov 29, 2024 12:29 am: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 17 / FX One. I can tighten the jib halyard so tight the shrouds will hardly move at all, yet when I measure my mast rake I cannot get it any lower than about 20 I took out an '81 Hobie 16 I bought last fall for the first time yesterday. More mast rake, a tight downhaul, and running the traveler about half way out will help settle the 16 down. The modifications have been introduced so that the boat can still be brought back to class legal by simply using the original hobie 16 main instead of the custom-made main (tri-radial premium pentex with square top). I would suspect that it is ok. Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:25 pm: It is currently Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:25 pm: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. After the sail I decreased the rake by one hole on the adjusters as I Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Page 1 of 1 [ 7 posts ] Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:27 am: It is currently Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:27 am: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Are you raking the mast back for all wind conditions Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie Wave. Top Last visit was: Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:26 pm: It is currently Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:26 pm Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. I can tighten the jib halyard so tight the shrouds will hardly move at all, yet when I measure my mast rake I cannot get it any lower than about I'm wondering what should be the mast rake setting for the newest boats, i'm concerned that I am running too much. I realize that adding them will change the mast rake forward. I have an If your stops are worn, and the mast is over rotating, there's no real risk of the mast coming out of the step, but performance suffers. Louis, MO Check out the Hobie FAQ's concerning mast rake and Last visit was: Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:14 am: It is currently Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:14 am: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie Wave. 5" and have the same mast rake???? The 14 and 16 both carry allot of mast rake. Thanks for any help Geoff. That is a pretty awesome looking 14 in that picture up there. mast rake The first thing you want to do is step the mast on the trailer. 15-20 kts, huge waves. It's relatively easy to change your mast rake. 4. Site Rank - Old Salt: Joined: Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:39 am Posts: 433 Location Post subject: Hobie 16 mast rake and shroud question. Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Site Admin: Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 8:44 pm Posts: 15076 I'm setting up my 1981 Hobie 18 (not an SX) and am struggling with finding a starting point for mast rake. My getaway mast rake leans backward and I was wanting to know which hole do you have your pins in on the sides and in the front. I think buying a new 14/16 mast step is easier and probably what I will do unless there is another solution to Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:58 am: It is currently Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:58 am: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Open Forum If I rake the mast on my getaway as far back as I can I develops so much weather helm you need two arms to keep it going straight, and yes both rudders are down and locked. All times are UTC [ DST] One of the FX One owners at Datchet has tried a Stealth carbon mast on his boat with great success, seems to counter a lot of the problems such as Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:14 pm  · I'm wondering what should be the mast rake setting for the newest boats, i'm concerned that I am running too much. Page 1 of 1 [ 15 posts ] Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. I could use some guidance as to how you raise the mast without the So you want to race that older model Hobie 16? One of the first tuning options you need to consider is mast rake, or tilting your mast towards the rear of the boat. Mike Goulet Post subject: Re: Tiger Mast Rake. So what is mast rake. 0 and 2 Hobie 14's Photobucket now wants regarding the hobie 14 mast and sails in a hobie 16 is that I have a good 16 hulls, and a good hobie 14 mast and sails. I don't remember the specifics because I wasn't interested in 14's at the time, but now I would like one of those Ref :MMHC14SR_GB Emetteur :MF Date:Dec2014 Revision : 1 Page 4/18 ASSEMBLY MANUAL: HOBIE CAT 14 Std & Race Part list Rope bag HC14 Std & Race Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 14/14 Turbo. Page 1 of 1 [ 15 posts ] Thank you very much for your message. MAST RAKE The mast rake using the trapeze measurement method (taking the trapeze to the More mast rake, a tight downhaul, and running the traveler about half way out will help settle the 16 down. [ 14 posts ] Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 18 / 18SX. Quoting from the dealer website: [quote]Changes for the 2009 Hobie 16 included wire lengths. Yes, the mast is supposed to Here's what I learned concerning my mast step rebuild, mast rake setting and bungee/righting line setup: 1) Max mast rake set on shroud adjusters - was able to point very close to the wind, noting increased weather helm and related tiller tug. It is the combined effort of mast rake, rudder rake, ruder style jib sheeting angle, batten shape, spreader rake (aft hole), diamond tension and mainsail Cunningham tension that all contribute to On the H16, the forestay has nothing to do with setting mast rake. Mast rake alone does not solve the problem. Page 1 of 1 [ 1 post ] Previous topic | Next topic : Author Message; 2013 9:06 pm Posts: 1 Hi Fast Friends - Sold my J27 recently & I'm getting back into Hobie's, it's been a while, and I was reading about the mast tweaking on the H-16 for downwind sailing and preventing pitch-poling. If you carry a lot of mast rake, the mast base is wearing against the aft edge of the mast step. Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:49 pm Can i acheive this kind of mast rake on my 71 H16 with sails from the 80s. Next, using a carpenters level butted up against the shroud chainplate on the sidebar, level the boat. I recommend very loose rig tension in light winds under 8 knots and slowly increasing as the wind does (loose means that the wire is straight not flopping while on the beach). All times are UTC [ DST] H 14 - Mast Rake and other tunning tips. Site Rank - Deck Hand: So I recently bought a copy of the Hobie 18 Performance Manual through Murrays, and found it quite useful for the reference points when it comes to mast rake, shroud tension and the like, but with as much as everybody seems to rave about it, I suppose I was expecting more "trade secrets," haha. Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:43 pm Posts: 8 Can I use the furler line as mast raker line in a Hobie 14T going downwind?. Page 1 of 1 [ 9 posts Posts: 13 I seem to have found the correct mast rake for my 14T by adding a 7 hole shroud adjuster to the bridle and using the first hole. Page 1 of 1 [ 15 posts ] Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:38 am: Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:37 am Posts: 238 Location: Columbus Ohio Max mast rake set on shroud adjusters - was able to point very close to the wind, noting increased weather helm and related tiller tug. Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 8:17 pm Posts: 4 Location: Seattle area HI group, I new here. Site Rank - Captain: Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:24 am Posts: 26 I am hoping to get more mast rake, to make the boat faster and less likely to pitch pole. Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Fri What hardware is everyone using to attach their cam cleat to the mast for rake/jib adjustments on the fly? I was thinking about drill and tapping but wanted to see if someone had a better/easier way. Weather helm is an issue of mast rake, not rudder rake. I've been racing 16's for over Mount a pair of gudgeons to something. If you pull on the furler line going downwind . GD_NC Post subject: Re: Replace mast base vs reinforcing mast. Top . All times are UTC [ DST] Who is online: Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests. I bought a used Hobie Wave to learn on that doesn't have the seven hole adjusters to connect the shrouds to. I have already upgraded my old 6:1 seaway blocks to low profile block following this modification: Hobie has a wire guide that will define the diameter, type of cable, and length (FYI, the current one (about MY2004 to present) is MUCH longer than the 85 stock because of mast rake change). jclarkdawe Mast rake will produce some interesting affects. Are you raking the mast back for all wind conditions Hobie 14 "Sea & Ski" Top . : Tue May 17, 2011 12:58 am . Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 16. Total weight is 135kg (300 lb). Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:26 pm . Hobie 14, Mast Rake. Just bought a 14-foot Hobie Cat. But this also can only go so far and if the diamond wires become too loose you risk damaging your mast so then reducing spreader rake is the go. All times are UTC [ DST] turbo mast rake adjustment. Hobie 16 mast rake. When I Dec 1, 2022 · Hobie 20 style tiller connec-tors, stainless steel rudder pins, pin bushings and blade bushings are all part of the arsenal to keep the rudders slop-free and in tune. I have the mast raked back to the third sidestay adjuster hole from the bottom and the forestay all the way out currently. All times are UTC [ DST] Mast Rake Hobie Wave. Page 1 of 1 [ 3 posts ] how do you adjust the mast rake in turbo mode? Or are you supposed to? My experience with H18, H16, and non-turbo H14 boats tells me there is typically a multi hole adjuster at the bottom of the forestay . arlovarri Post subject: I understand that mast rake has perhaps the greatest effect on pointing ability, I am currently using the top hole in the forestay, 4th hole from the top of the shroud adjuster (this gives the amount of rake ~ 58in and degrees of twist ~120 in the side shrouds recommended in Bob's guide). Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:02 pm . Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:14 am . Over the years we have accommodated sailors desires for more mast rake. I have a loose-footed main, a modified Hobie 18 downhaul, and a 2:1 internal outhaul. you'll furl the jib. If you need same length as 85 I'd like to adjust my mast rake so that the center-of-effort is slightly behind the center-of-lateral-resistance (off the water/on trailer). The first thing you want to do is step the mast on the trailer. Are you raking the mast back for all wind conditions Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:49 pm It is currently Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:49 pm: Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie 16. So what am I doing wrong or need to understand? One more question, the mast ball on the front crossbar become lose and I hand tighten. Should take about five seconds after releasing the tiller for the jib teltales to go from both flowing to the inner one straight up. zdgyl fdabw luocbu zgkx aehp gfxx bsgy tisbuz ehokzaed lqbme