Moscow murders reddit roommates It’s kind of ridiculous seeing a lot of the things posted on here from people who never have even heard of Moscow before the murders, but now consider themselves experts. She is It wasn't just "4 roommates murdered", it was 4 roommates brutally stabbed to death, with a knife sheath with male DNA left behind under one of the bodies. ” Posted by u/quitclaim123 - 103 votes and 1,878 comments In a press release about the homicides, Moscow police said the following: "On November 13th, the surviving roommates summoned friends to the residence because they believed one of the second-floor victims had passed out and was not waking up. What do y'all think about this? Serial killer, a close friend, ect. true. I would think that they could walk in any time, especially on a Saturday party night. But, because of the low murder-rate in Moscow, I think it's safe to assume they don't have a well-practiced, investigation system in place. we lived like that for months. So when did all 4 get home? Would they have gone to bed Bethany Funke and Dylan Mortensen survived the November 13, 2022, slayings of their roommates Kaylee Goncalves, 21, Madison Mogen, 21, and Xana Kernodle, 20, at their rental house in Moscow, Idaho. Reply reply The November murders have left the town of Moscow, Idaho shaken. could be met if it was BK since KG was afraid of a stalker per Moscow PD: Kaylee mentioned having a Around noon, about the time Moscow police found the victims and the hunt for the killer began, Kohberger's phone pings indicate that he likely slipped out of his apartment and past Pullman police once more. Moscow is tiny. Claims two surviving roommates were texting back and forth before, during & after. Suspect Bryan Kohberger, who maintains his innocence, appeared in court and his attorneys say a summer 2024 trial isn't realistic. Posted by u/quitclaim123 - 140 votes and 4,071 comments Moscow Idaho Murders. Proceeds to gtfo by his entry point and encounters the two other roommates that possibly got awakened, killed them both and finally gtfo'd. ” It’s mainly because the people in true crime communities were captivated by Delphi for 5. When BK arrived back in Pullman after the murders the car was caught on traffic cameras at 5 different intersections. He was protected by the FBI as several agents were getting a cut of the profits. They may not have known their roommates families beforehand but you’d think after a huge gruesome murder in their own home they would have something to say to one another. After the murders, campus got true crime tourists. These people stuck out like sore thumbs. 28am Styner Avenue, Moscow The roommates would be the first ones to be He has to say he was doing that because he turned his phone back on while he was south of Pullman and Moscow right after the murders. And then for stranger-on-stranger murder, in 2021 in America , A larger percentage of males (21%) were murdered by a stranger than females (12%). The roommate on second floor heard noises and saw a masked man. In addition to his doctoral I think the person confirming the alibi is likely a roommate or close friend who is either (a) taking a risk for a close friend, or (b) unwittingly falsely confirming an alibi based on a good-faith belief the killer was actually where he thought he Yeah this happened to me too and it was really upsetting. Police delivered him to the Latah County Jail. Like when the tabs posted a pic of a girl jogging and claimed it was Dylan, some commenter was going on about “Oh, that girl’s too well put together and pretty to be Dylan, Dylan has unkempt hair and doesn’t do her nails and looks unhealthy like she does a lot of drugs. Not meaning to be a jerk to any commenters but no one knows other than EMS and police (possibly the 2 surviving roommates & friends they called. m. ) Please stop proclaiming things as if you were there. but this is reddit and we’re all speculating. Then half a month later, the Moscow murders happened. The call was made from one of the surviving roommates’ cell phones inside the residence. Yes, in a statement document released by Moscow PD after the press conference, they stated “According to the Moscow Police Department (MPD), at this time in the investigation, detectives don't believe any person at the residence when 911 was called is involved in the crime. It also makes you wonder if the rumors about DM & BF being in the same bedroom during the murders. Sunday, the mayor said. Kohberger faces several charges including four counts of first-degree murder for the deaths of Ethan Chapin, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Kaylee Goncalves. 13th. Recent News. she's a light sleeper and was completely sober, just I have the unfortunate experience of having taken a class on thermodynamics in college. It looks like Ashlin lived in the house during the 2021-2022 school year with Madison. I’m graduated now but I lived in Moscow and was a Pi Phi there. The father of one of the victims. At 11:58 a. Tiktok users are going through any open account, going through their friends & bfs accounts and making up any story to claim as a theory. Another thought is maybe the roommates take sleeping pills like ambien or melatonin. BK posting on Reddit about similar crimes and asking how murderers choose their victims. Moscow 3. (Note, am also from the area I was born in Moscow and live in Clarkston, WA) Nothing was said publicly about that for a while. They also cleared a man seen in a Twitch video from a local food truck, who internet Recent News. The Latah County Coroner’s Office has confirmed the The 1:45 time is really the amount of time the Twitch Livestream had been going, right? So if it was on from 10-ish, as usual, that makes the actual time almost midnight. In this interview, in regards to the Chapin family agreeing with the house being demolished SG said “I have leaked footage, I’ve seen things that they may have not seen, I know for a fact the path this car (white Elantra) took and people are going to wonder what he was doing when he parks in certain locations for an extended amount of time, what was he looking at, I want to If the roommates were allegedly high or drunk (and at that moment no one could be sure that the police could discover the personality of the suspect) - to get lawyered up seems to be reasonable, when you were in the next rooms to murders, especially in the USA. scene (and then inexplicably turning it off around the time of the murders) and cell phone data near the crime scene 11 times prior (late at night). The fact that 2 roommates were still alive, and no call to 911 for hours. This Reddit community has been created solely to “On November 13th, the surviving roommates summoned friends to the residence because they believed one of the second-floor victims had passed out and was not waking up. Similar to how DM probably couldn't fathom what she heard/saw to be an intruder murdering her roommates, Xana likely couldn't fathom the man in her house was an intruder about to murder her. He cut his phone off en-route. Internet sleuths slandering me (or libel considering most of its written) wouldn't be too high on my list of concerns It was also 4am, they had been drinking earlier "awake" =/= "fully awake, conscious, alert". There’s no way she heard sounds, in a designated party house, and thought, ‘yup, that’s 4 of my roommates being stabbed to death’. So younger members/roommates are 100% hesitant to question or push back on their older roommates. In this context(and at the time) I thought it meant the killer wanted to kill a bunch on college kids and targeted this specific house therefore there wasn’t an ongoing threat to the community say like there was with those two young men in Canada who went on a killing spree and killed that couple in the van Here's a list of reliable news sources that I've compiled for finding out news about the murders in Moscow and the on-going court actions. It was not plausible, yet it was a very digestible way for people to understand how the roommates could have I also think he failed to fully factor in how much his adrenaline would be coursing before, during, and after the murders and just how much an adrenaline rush of that magnitude can take over your body, your thought process, and the situation as a whole - leading to mistakes and/or incriminating actions (ie pulling in 1122's driveway like a It explains the "crime of passion" stated by the Moscow mayor and others (Jack was going to passionately miss life without Kaylee. Whatever his initial plan was, he ends up killing both. 345 votes, 416 comments. He could have been and I think he was in Moscow during a period of that time. BK still doesn't have an actual alibi. Also, the students are only there for a few years at a time, and there are constantly new students One night in September – in the excitement of the fall semester – the roommates had gone to a party at the Sigma Chi fraternity nearby. She texted the group chat to ask others if they were ok, figured they were all asleep so she went to the bottom floor where the other roommate was awake. 27am. He would’ve been obsessed with the effects of the murders, and Reddit would’ve been the perfect place to see people’s opinions/theories/fears first hand. It apparently is the testimony of one of the surviving roommates Bethany Funke. The victim was first to head home in the early hours of the morning. He dressed as a story book villain complete with obligatory bulky black It also would have been very difficult for the roommates to have covered it up if they had done it for this reason. Or u/amacka19's summary here. , a 911 call requested aid for an unconscious person. 11/20/2022 Moscow Police Department Press Conference: WATCH See u/LonelyFleur's summary here. Tips and leads have led investigators "MOSCOW, Idaho – Moscow Police don’t believe the two surviving roommates had anything to do with the murders of four University of Idaho students. View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. The Idaho Murders follows a dynamic group of amateur TikTok detectives, led by # That is weird as fuck, sorry. There have been media questions regarding a February 2022, death on Baker St. They were carrying a black case and inside for about 20 minutes. I want to hear about how the 5 roommates met, their personalities, and the actual events of that fated weekend leading up to the murder. But that would be my contribution if I was a mod! Were the killings his "statement" and "reply"? Was he there on Halloween night, SCOPING OUT AND REHEARSING HIS GRAND PERFORMANCE AS A LITTLE PRIVATE INSIDE JOKE FOR HIMSELF? Is there someone ON CAMPUS who had a roommate who might have kept a 2022 CALENDAR on their wall, with the Sunday November 13 date circled in a noticeably emphatic The surviving roommates for sure, esp the one who actually came face to face with the killer. or at least gone upstairs after "the afterparty" was finished to ask View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. Both had bedrooms on the lowest level. 11/23 there was an image search -11/11 there was a search for the address + “Zillow” -Kaylee was The only roommates name that showed up View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. the evidence they likely already have is probably overwhelming. Bigs and littles each submit a “top 10” type list, and the sorority new member educators will match bigs and littles. Instead, he made a big circle - heading south of Moscow to Genesee (G) which takes about 20min and then from Genesee to Pullman which takes about 30min. They would likely have some sort of defensive wounds. Reddit has genuinely headhunted incorrect people before. Most of the traffic lights in Pullman have cameras on them. 4 of them are on Stadium Way which is the main road that runs through the WSU campus that leads to the main entrance/exit of the campus. When Ms Zabel arrived home some time later, the door was locked and she couldn’t get hold of her roommate to let her into the house. So there are multiple cameras at the intersections with traffic lights. I assume it does because the time it took for him to drive to Moscow hours after the murder (9am-ish) seems a little too short to make it there and back. The skinning was 100% done by a human, and was also done with a sharp blade. But, then I question why there were two roommates that weren’t killed, as I believe the surviving roommates were home first. I still think the roommates were drunk passed out- slept in and woke up to a bloodbath and called 911 Recent News. Information Eg “we have video of you disposing of the murder weapon and the victims DNA in your car” “yeah but that girl who saw me is lying”. I think she was scared from seeing the murderer but she didn’t know any murders had happened. he had a Reddit post with a criminology course survey. The tweet saying that they weren’t the callers was deleted and proved false. December 22, 2022 - No significant case updates, but some interesting content: Reason - University of Idaho Murders Yield Libel Lawsuit Against "Internet Sleuth" - for discussion, see u/Fuzzywuzzy2930's post here Video: News Nation: Moscow Police Chief Insists Early Investigations Were Properly Done | Dan Abrams Live - for discussion, see And unfortunately there are so many unknowns. rest in peace. Two roommates survived the attack. A single murder hadn’t occurred in this town in nearly a decade. This is absolutely heartbreaking and so insane in this day and age. They used my full legal name, took normal pictures off my IG, followed a bunch of people who followed me, blocked me, and then advertised a Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. I know everyone remembers this it was said both surviving roommates locked themselves in the same room together because they heard weird noises and saw a masked man in the hallway. Go to main menu Go to search form No, it was just a theory based on how the 911 call went detailing how events played out upon discovering the scene. 44am to c 5. Our goal is to provide a space where users can share their thoughts and engage in discussion with I saw a TikTok last night where a woman talked about how she was living in her home with her roommate’s cousin unknowingly for a week while they (the roommate) went out of town. On November 13th, at 11:58 a. ) But that's still 1,626 murders besides the 4 in Moscow, more than every other type of not-gun method combined. Dr Phil 12/12/2023 will focus on the Moscow Murders with exclusive photos inside the house Posted by u/iloveto2sleep - No votes and 46 comments Maybe I’m giving too much credit to a psycho in that situation, but it’s hard to imagine them proceeding with these murders thinking there are two other roommates who haven’t come home yet. When I lived with roommates, I had a sound machine going each night to drown out the sound. Over half of the video sightings correlate the synchronous movement of BK's phone with the travel and location of the suspect car. It's a bot that makes the account from women's public IG accounts. They would have needed to shower. Also attended many parties at the Y'all, post facts on this subreddit. Were the other two roommates asleep during this attack. We no longer have blanket post approval enabled and have returned back to our norm of limited post filtering as described in this announcement post. But makes sense now if D visibly saw him she was able to give a semi-description of him which was SUPER key to their investigation. That's how his cell phone pinged off 2 towers farther east. The defense is trying to come up with an alibi to fit what the prosecution has on his movements. 7, 2023) . I did a bunch of searches, for example: college students stabbed "sleeping" before:2020-01-01 -Idaho -dorm -dormitory -roommate -Tessa. Sadly this is just the beginning. Thus giving the false appearance of him having drove through Moscow. I edited the dude's name because of reddit's rules but it's unedited in the NYT article. They would have needed to dispose of clothing/gloves/murder weapon. The roommate has likely been torn to shreds at this point, so seeing a post like this months after this got dissected to the fucking Moscow Police Release Extended Bodycam from Night of Idaho Student Murders Video why didn’t the two roommates in the other room hear that? Reply reply They are accomplices to murder and will be jailed along with the killer, “Assigned resources vary based on the current needs of the investigation,” the Moscow Police Department said. her door directly opened to the living room, and walls are thin. This subject has been discussed to death. it all got cleaned up but when we moved out and got our stuff from the basement we found out some of the blood had dripped through the hardwood floors and was pooled up the basement. I’ve also looked all over for the details of the poor dog 3 weeks prior that had been skinned. December 16, 2022 - Fox News: Investigators Traveled at Least 24 Miles to Collect Surveillance Video Related to the Killings Investigators traveled at least 24 miles to the east of Moscow, Idaho, to the nearby towns of Troy and Kendrick to acquire surveillance video; These videos seem to relate to Kohberger's drive from Pullman to Moscow just before the murders. The male associated with the DNA went to a school 20 miles away, yet regularly made trips to I absolutely 100% believe she had no clue what was occurring. His theory is that M was the target. To my knowledge nothing was cleaned, and luminol would provide evidence of that. Interestingly, in this case, the killer hadn't anticipated a third roommate being present! To try and do something (anything), I queried for crimes like the one in Moscow to understand what likely happened. The Moscow tower could reasonably stretch several miles down the Pullman-Moscow Highway towards Pullman. You weren't. And claiming that dylan, they are specifically I’ve seen people be just plain unnecessarily mean about her appearance. ” It's like a murder mystery where there is a gotcha moment people didn't pick up on right from the get go: THE MURDERS DID NOT TAKE PLACE AT THE SAME TIME. Mr. So in their heads it’s more plausible that the roommates were drug dealers, who were somehow so important that the cartel would personally get involved and break their normal murder MO, because motive. m UPDATE December 7, 2022 MPD Press Release PDF WARNING: . """"" This is a college town, the house is right across from campus, PRIME REAL ESTATE! I seriously doubt the owner will bulldoze the house. Apparently both FBI, and Moscow Police have ruled out any connection relating to the murders, I’m just trying to find a reason why they ruled it out. If he couldn't have her no one could. 5 years, and then finally an arrest came at the end of October. Why do people get so upset that others are questioning if the roommates may or may not have had something to do with the murders? In any homicide the survivors in the house are usually These two young women are experiencing immense trauma, which most of us will never truly understand. What resources are being used to investigate these murders? Moscow Police Department: 4 Detectives; 24 Patrol Officers; Support Staff Federal Bureau of Investigation: 22 investigators in Moscow; 20 assigned agents located out of Treasure Valley, ID, Salt Lake City, Utah, and West Virginia; 2 Behavior Analysis Unit Idaho State Police: Update to "Rumor Control" Section of Moscow PD's King Road Homicides FAQ. 5. The skinning was 100% done by a human, You would think in a murder case with such glaring inconsistencies, toxicology results would play a significant role in aiding the case, especially considering four brutal killings occurred in the short span of In the November killings of four college students in Moscow, Idaho, the surviving roommates may have been spared because the assailant ran out of "energy," according to a former federal agent. Yes!! & I also remember the police saying “the roommates may be the key to solving the case” which at the time was confusing bc it made me think the roommates knew the killer or something. Will be interesting to see what else he discovered or has to say. Not speculation that could potentially lead to a bad situation. “Hoodie Guy” who was on video hanging around two of the female victims at a food truck on the night of the murders. I debate whether the killer was inside the house when they got home, and the order of killings occurred based on who returned home first. The roommate never bothered to tell either of them, so they spent the entire week on different schedules being creeped out and thinking they were alone in a haunted This would shift my speculation from the killer being known by the roommates to the killer being random (open door prompting entry/events that followed) Moscow had +28 degree, which is about -2 Celsius degree. Yes, I agree. I'd like to be confident of the fact that there is one The distinction is made in the affidavit between stalking and surveillance [on the residence. The Idaho Student Murders 40:44. Bryan Kohberger, right, appears at a hearing in Latah County District Court on January 5, 2023, in Moscow, Idaho. There were also times, in those same living situations where something would momentarily freak me out - to the point that I'd describe myself as "frozen in fear", but then after a few minutes I'd unfreeze and realize it was probably just some new/unfamiliar way my roommates found to make noise ,(or a drunk weirdo my roommate was hooking up with To add to this from a former sorority member- it’s also a two way street when girls are matched to be “big” and “little”. It’s believed the crime happened between 3 a. The two female roommates who were home, but weren’t harmed in the attack. However, that shouldn’t be taken as the case shifting into federal hands. Never-before-seen photos and details about the man accused of murdering four Idaho college students, CBS News (Jan. DNA evidence on the knife sheath found right next to a victim. December 18, 2022 - Newly available body camera footage from Moscow PD response to September 1, 2022, noise complaint at 1122 King Road - video here For discussion, see u/Antony_NOW's post here; or u/Brilliant_Football95's post here; or relatedly, u/pumpkinspicecum's post about what might be gleaned about locks on the doors in the A community to freely discuss the murders of University of Idaho students Kaylee, Maddie, Xana, and Ethan that occurred in Moscow, Idaho. Do fucking better. The PCA mentions three types of information about the location of Kohberger's phone during his 13 visits to Moscow before and after the murders: (1) His phone connecting to a tower that serves areas such as King Road (2) phone location information from his cellular service provider, AT&T (3) location information calculated from cell tower data (CSLI) by the FBI CAST unit. Posted by u/MEC3273 - 44 votes and 103 comments This has been my thought as well. makes me shiver to think about now. THE ROOMMATES WERE ALREADY DEAD WHEN THE GIRLS GOT Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now the headlines was that something had happened at the frat party earlier in the night and was somehow connected to the murders. As you rightly point out, if the burglary charge lets them get first degree murder via felony murder then there is no need for “separate” evidence of intent. The day after the murders, I heard about the roommates being awake and hiding in their rooms because they were scared and saw someone. 13, 2022, and stabbed their Moscow, Idaho - True crime creators on TikTok are continuing to spread unfounded theories about the surviving roommates in the Moscow murders case following the release Apparently both FBI, and Moscow Police have ruled out any connection relating to the murders, I’m just trying to find a reason why they ruled it out. wasn't saying I was better than anyone or trying to prove a point, was just a random guy giving an opinion, not sure why people are so upset about my opinion when a random guy they will never meet. don't really do reddit before started following this In this instance, the adult survivor didn't initially consider murder when hearing noises; she was merely annoyed. To speculate that a roommate was involved in her roommate’s murders is not believable IMO because she was friends with them, cared about them and had no motive or evidence to I understand they are trolls but people judging his appearance in a murder investigation need some self reflection likely after spending the entire night talking about him with her roommate. Detectives are interested in speaking with the occupant(s) of a white 2011-2013 Hyundai Elantra, with an unknown license plate. When the roommate witness was being lambasted over freezing in fear I saw What can we learn from what happened to my friends, and how it applies to the Moscow Murders When I was a junior in college, someone set my friends house on fire. The roommates have not been cleared as suspects, and that Idaho State Police say that they could be the key to the whole case. During covid my roommate, gf, her roommate, and I would spend basically every Saturday hanging out, playing games, and having You’re making an assumption. In a house with 5-6 people on a Saturday night/Sunday morning, there is probably noise all the time. As adults, most people get in the habit of locking up or have a nighttime routine of locking doors. The police in Moscow had said that a white Hyundai Elantra from between 2011 and 2013 had been seen near the scene of the crimes on the night of the killings in Moscow, Idaho, on Nov. His alibi sucks. Even if the 20° air was blowing straight in through the door and the door was all the way open if the heat was on, the thermostat was set to say 70°, the I’d imagine that professional criminals would rather use a gun as a murder weapon. 13. In the morning they still hadn’t got a response from the other roommates so they were too scared to come out of their room. Ashlin says she moved out of the house in May 2022 and Xana took her spot. Also, since it’s unlikely that they had ties to organized crime, I still think that the killer is some incel man who loathes beautiful popular people. m Recent News. Similar to how DM probably couldn't fathom what she heard/saw to be an intruder murdering her roommates, XK & KG likely couldn't fathom the man in their house was an Recent News. The best place on Reddit for admissions advice. Leafblower is clueless and trying to get upvotes. They've Moscow Police in Idaho can't yet answer how two individuals slept through the murders of four others inside the same home. This thread is archived (generally speaking) the coroner's report-confirming murders took place, warrants obtained that genuinely not sure why it upset so many people, didn't realize reddit was taken so seriously. Based on the PCA, nothing was said that directly indicates someone thought a dangerous intruder was present. Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke are the two roommates of the Idaho students who were stabbed to death in an off-campus home in Moscow, Idaho. My sister has a friend who was friends with the victims. The Reddit Law School Admissions Forum. Getting rid of the most damning piece of evidence for the prosecution. A roommate who survived the quadruple murders at the University of Idaho told police she saw a man in black clothes and a mask walking past her in her house on the night of the killings, and she Reddit's content policy prohibits sharing and soliciting (including via private message) someone's private or personal information. What happened on my friend's street and 5 minutes from me is different because the suspect is known and arrested. Lets not do it again. He drove through Pullman into Moscow. On the night of Nov. Two investigators just showed up to the house in Moscow, Idaho where the murders happened. There is a very small possibility the two living roommates were the targets and that the killer mistakenly killed the wrong ones in the dark, and by that time they've murdered four people they didn't intend to and panicked/fled Everything you need to know about The Watcher of 657 Boulevard. i had a friend commit suicide in my rental home in college (with a gun). 13, two pairs of roommates, who lived in the Moscow apartment where the murders occurred, went out separately and arrived home shortly before 2 a. cant even begin to imagine how the police felt when they were packing up the items from the victims/ surviving I’m worried about the surviving roommates too. Two unfathomable crimes, both dealing with children/young adults, and each case seeing “movement” within a month of each other. Hindsight is 20/20. She had no clue. She was friends with BK prior and the knife sheath was a gift to her from him or a gift to one of the murder roommates and she knew about it. 8, 2023) . ] “On December 23,2022,Iwas granted a search warrant for Kohberger's historical CSLI from June 23, 2022 to current, prospective location information, and a Pen Register/Trap and Trace on the 8458 Phone to aid in efforts to determine if Kohberger stalked any of the victims in this case prior to . Moscow Homicide Update November 18, 2022 4:40 PM MOSCOW, Idaho – The Moscow Police Department is providing the following information to update the public on the known facts surrounding the four murders that occurred on November 13th in Moscow, Idaho Two other roommates were at the residence that night. slept through all of it, even music and occasional drunk people yelling. Combination of any of these theories. But no way. On BK After the Murders: He returned seemingly unnoticed to Pullman and fell back into his school routine. Why would some random person on Reddit fear someone else sharing an opinion? Are you suggesting that people who disagree with nutty conspiracy thoughts are part of the conspiracy? That's an irrational fear, which is a symptom displayed by many conspiracy kooks. On Jan. I'm sure the cops know things they cannot talk about. An earlier update said something like "attended EX party 8-9", but its never been Well it could be the other two roommates that called. For example, I loved in a 4 bedroom house but there were only 3 people. They do that because it predominately college students and the pay for their room. Post-Press Conference Press Release (11/20/2022) Excerpt: Detectives are releasing that on the morning of November 13th, the surviving roommates summoned friends to the residence because they believed one of the The last update from Moscow PD simply says they were believed to have attended a party at the EX house. Or the people who were obsessively confident the killer was the ex boyfriend, the roommates, hoodie guy, the guy hoodie guy spoke to at the food truck, vape shop guy, the bartender Thoughts on Reddit as a Moscow Local . He went for one person, shit hits the fan and However, Bryan didn't drive directly from Moscow to Pullman. It shows that people might not always react in expected ways during critical moments. They still got a conviction despite no DNA or forensic evidence and no murder weapon. If you see redundant (or otherwise problematic) posts, please use the More I found: their address + the words floor plan searched in WA and OR 10/25 and 11/1. It’s more efficient, gives distance to the victims and it’s quicker. People think that the surviving roommate's silence is suspicious, but quite frankly, I wouldn't be talking or saying anything either. Edit: forgot the link to the weather: Reddit's open forum for discussion of all aspects of actual crimes and their legal Ive thought for a while that all the conspiracies are cos people can’t get their heads round the seeming lack of motive. let me know what you heard first before the rumors kept changing and changing. Other things: “During a press conference on Wednesday, Moscow police confirmed that they were aware of the Oregon incident and were “looking into any possible connection” between the crimes. Or check it out in the app stores was found on the second and third floors and that the surviving roommates may have been on the first floor. The latest episode: Host Kayna Whitworth returns to Idaho for a hearing in the Moscow murders case. K and M went downtown to a local bar November 12th, then a food truck, and returned home via a private party at 1:56 am on Nov. Or check it out in the app stores Seems as if a roommate did in fact pass out according to the Goncalves family. Cell phone data that night near the crime. Under a dark Idaho sky, investigators flew Bryan Kohberger to the college town of Moscow. We've finally added a wiki with a summary of the case and court proceedings to date (among other topics), check it out here!. Police believe the murders were a targeted attack. From 2:47-4:48 AM which is the crucial time period his phone wasn't reporting to the network. You get a feel for who’s local/a student and who’s not. 2 roommates survived and they are NOT suspects, and one of the victims might have been stalked. Aside from the 2 surviving roommates, there was also a goldendoodle belonging to one of the victims in the house. But the move also marks the first time since the killings that federal investigators outnumber those of the local and state police forces. Probably depends a lot on the jury and how the case is presented. This requires the 'sleeping' term and asks for 'college,' 'students,' and 'stabbed' keywords Gotta love people coming into a thread starting “as a lawyer” and then ignoring what is totally a question of state law. After the murders we know from phone data he drove a very circuitous route back to Pullman covering a huge area, heading south, past Genessee and Unionstown then looping west and back north to Pullman. It’s never been confirmed when the roommates discovered them. The probable cause affidavit used to arrest him has raised further questions And Moscow hadn’t had a murder since 2015. Some of the questions are very blunt and disturbing There is one other thing about this story that really got me to want to search here on reddit if any new information was available. Asserting "something is very very odd" about the 2 roommates being left untouched is planting a seed for a witch-hunt IMO. and 4 a. Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke were both home when criminology student Bryan Kohbeger allegedly snuck into the Moscow house on Nov. This summarizes some of the information in last night's 48 Hours episode, which you can watch The former roommate is Ashlin Couch. " (Page 3 of the PDF. Because it has DM looking out her window for noisy roommates and police responding to a 911 call at 4pm on the day of the murders Reply reply Honest-Astronaut2156 (For clarity: I think he obviously played a key role in the kid’s deaths & is guilty of at least conspiracy to commit murder, just now question the strength of the first degree murder charge, not his actual guilt) Guys, I’m so shocked at these murders. Post any questions you have, there are lots of 18 of these location sightings were in the relatively short time period before and after the murders from c 2. 4. The ex-boyfriend of one of the victims. World's quietest attack. That goes too far. Esther Bower of KXLY News 4 reports new revelations in the investigation that the roommates who were home at the time of the murder who survived without injury were not the ones who called 911. They are likely suffering with survivor's guilt, while coping with the loss of 4 close friends who were integral in their daily lives. Good point about everyone having different definitions of what targeted means. The taxi driver who drove two of the victims home from the food truck. So they went to sleep and the killer left quickly at that point knowing they were awake? Want the front door (basement door) open? Like the killer's exit? It would have been easier to leave out the kitchen sliding glass door. We don't even know There are at least 100 posts about the roommate and saying they “looked” for posts about it seems disingenuous. One of my friends died, and one of my close friends almost died from significant burns, smoke inhalation, and the injuries he suffered jumping from his 3rd story bedroom window once The murder house was the distribution point (leaks indicate it was a massive drug house) for Moscow. Sounds like one particular person or persons had a big problem with just these four individuals or the two roommates would have been killed too. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Dylan was involved as the local contact in the house as I also wonder if either of the surviving roommates or other close friends of the victims feel that BK looks vaguely familiar, or flat out recognize him from some "accidental" or "chance" encounter in the months leading up to the murders. I lived in Former FBI Agent Shares Theory Why Roommates Were Spared in Idaho Murders News "When you stab four people, that takes a lot of energy and a lot of exertion. Then of course the media frenzy surrounding it all. They weren’t dressed right for the weather and stopped every five seconds to take pictures. 12/29/2022 Moscow Homicide Update the police had a good idea of who he was but then yesterday I watched the Moab pd's presentation on kylen and crystal's murder and they said they had that guy very early on but it took until yesterday to make it official so it brought my The Idaho/Moscow Police never released officially that the murders timeline was from 3 to 4 am. It’s not like these girls just met at this just happened during halloween, my roommate threw a big and very loud party, and my other roommate was tired so she went to her room at like 10pm. A timeline of the murder . I know of a cold case murder trial where the prosecution utilized witnesses with 15+ year old memories, timelines that didn't add up, and statements that changed. WSU students: Kohberger spoke up in class — except when Moscow killings were the topic, Idaho Statesman (Jan. It was the Mayor. Personally, based on the evidence that was released in this probable cause affidavit, I'm not certain that he planned on killing all four of them or expected all four of them to be there And the downstairs roommates - perhaps affected the most of all other than family, as they made the awful discovery, learned they were home during the murders, and were later scrutinized and speculated about by randoms on the internet. The two roommates of Idaho students found brutally murdered in their beds have broken their Sorority positions and hierarchy is often at play as well -- piss off an older roommate who may have a position, and you may hear from your standards chair about something you thought you were doing in the privacy of your own home. Insight from when Ethan’s older brother was on the Moscow murders sub: He said the one person who discovered them, got everyone out of the house and r/MoscowMurders Updates:. Check out the sidebar for intro guides. Probably because you could argue some of my previous reddit usage is a bit hostile lol. When you live with roommates who come and go at all hours, it’s very easy to leave the door unlocked and assume the “last person in” will lock up. The roommates may have been perceived as culprits if they Did they text a roommate and ask if they were awake? Did a roommate or the killer respond and said everything was fine. However, investigators have not concluded if the target was the residence or its occupants. “We’re looking at every avenue and we have other agencies reaching out to us with other cases and stuff that we are going to follow up on,” said Moscow Agree with you on such assumptions of the surviving roommates, but a tangential question: can anyone explain how it’s possible that the surviving roommates who called 911 thought their friend was “passed out” but the coroner who responded to the scene saw “quite a bit of blood”? To me, it seems such a discrepancy. 5, in an orange I’m sure the roommates respected each others space and didn’t go knocking on their doors at 4 am. They probably haven't followed a lot of murders in the news because they're kids and this is the first one that piqued their interest, versus adults who follow true crime stuff, or are just old enough to have seen decades of high profile murder cases in the news and therefor don't make as many stupid assumptions, or have that little knowledge In the brief interview he claims to have gotten to Moscow and started interviewing people before a suspect was developed. 3) they’re young college kids. The series centers around the passengers and crew of Montego Air Flight 828, who land following a turbulent but routine flight only to discover that they have been missing for five years, despite only a few hours having passed for everyone on board. enzmksv csuxvdv gsqf tbbn jmlu xxven tecyhbff umx onyal bqiebqqv